Wednesday, January 10, 2018

Podcasting's Ad Skipping Issues


Even though this blog is about podcasting, a technologically advanced medium, that couldn’t have existed 15 or 20 years ago – and I have a great deal of enthusiasm for this media technology, I’m still probably behind the times in parts of podcasting technology.

Ad skipping, as far as I was aware, meant trying to slide the timeline with one fat finger on a tiny (outdated and old) player only 30 seconds or 1 minute at a time to skip ads. Apple’s podcast app, now a primary distribution channel, does offer 15 and 30 second skipping, although those buttons have been made harder to find on newer versions of the app. Other similar apps, Instacast, Downcast and Pocket Casts, have 15, 30 or 45 second skip capabilities.

From the podcasters’ point of view, of course, skipping is a bad thing because it erodes the effectiveness of advertisements and the honest numbers for ads’ reach that they can show advertisers. Having hosts read the ads – even if those ads are dynamically inserted – is touted as a way to combat ad skipping, because listeners will be less likely to bother skipping if the ad is in the same style as the rest of the podcast – and especially if the host makes the ads as compelling as the rest of the podcast program.

The one monkey wrench in the host read theory is that hosts can end up eroding their credibility – if they later end up reading an ad for a competing sponsor, or, even worse, if the advertisement raises questions of a conflict of interest with the programming. Last February, Wired cited the Containers podcast, a specialized show about how the Oakland, California port functions, as an example, because that show had host reads for the Flexport freight company. This, however, seems like such a specific field and instance, that one wonders if there was a significant direct competitor that was actively frozen out of advertising on Containers.

The one solution I can think of so far, which admittedly risks driving listeners away from the medium, is to put technology in place that forces listeners to hear at least some portion of an ad, if not all of it, before skipping ahead. YouTube and many media outlets do this with online video. It’s an interesting question – is podcasting mature enough as a medium to retain listeners throughout ad breaks? There is another related debate – do younger listeners have enough attention span so that enforced advertising time doesn’t lose them?


Podcast listeners may be a more patient bunch, however, than those watching short videos. Or, just as with video, if the marquee value of a show is greater, viewers or listeners will tolerate more embedded ads.

Podcast of the Moment:

Celebration Rock, “1987 Is One Of Rock’s Best Years,” August 14, 2017. There are the albums that most who were around in that generation recognize as great –“ The Joshua Tree,” “Appetite For Destruction” and “Sign O’ The Times”. Then there are others by big acts that got criticized as sounding dated later, like Springsteen’s “Tunnel Of Love” and Fleetwood Mac’s “Tango In The Night,” but have ended up sounding contemporary now. These thoughts are the spark for host Steven Hyden and guest Brian Hiatt, of Rolling Stone, to nerd out about the creative forces that peaked in what they call a watershed year for music.

Tuesday, January 2, 2018

A Cautionary Tale For Dynamic Ad Insertion


As an avid podcast listener, it’s easy to develop antipathy to the ads in the same way TV watchers, spoiled by DVRs and streaming video, became unwilling to tolerate the advertising that supports the content. But let’s not forget that the ads often are what makes it possible for the podcast programming to exist.

The most popular podcasts have dedicated sponsors connected by distributors such as Midroll, Panoply and others. The medium is democratized, however, by the practice of dynamic ad insertion, which allows less popular shows to insert points where short audio ads can be swapped in and out based on the length of time an advertiser has paid for.

There are both big and small players offering dynamic ad insertion. Panoply’s Megaphone service provides this. Aside from Art 19 and Performance Bridge, mentioned in an August 2016 blog that touched on this subject, AdLarge Media, Podbean and others are now on the radar.

Of course, there are technical challenges to making dynamic ad insertion seamless. The practice can accommodate host-read ads, which are preferable to ads that sound like typical terrestrial radio commercials. Podcasters also have to pay attention to how music transitions in and out of ads.

Dynamic ad insertion is making its impact by greatly increasing the ad inventory offered through the medium. In turn, this makes it possible for more podcasts to exist. However, a larger supply of advertising brings down the prices podcasters can charge for these ads. Also, with a lower bar to become a podcaster with advertising support, there will be more programming competing for meaningful ads from dynamic ad insertion. At the same time that this trend democratizes the medium, it also creates an exponential explosion of programming that itself becomes common and commoditized.


It may be possible that a podcast that wouldn’t have otherwise found significant ad support could get help through dynamic ad insertion – both by delivering listeners to a sponsor who would not otherwise have reached those listeners and by raising the profile of those podcasts themselves. The danger, however, is that the commoditization of podcast advertising (and podcasts themselves) could erode the credibility of the business, if it becomes just an audio version of the worst and cheapest online display advertising.